Most important is that you are not embarrassed. Your own self-confidence will be perceived such that perhaps you are not to to be messed with. You'llfeel good & you'll be good inspiration for others to come out of their closet.

thank you glad you agree

you are very much so correct......cheers

We deserve to be loved on and also be seen out it public without being embarressed by other people just because of are gender.

And your point is. . .?

Jus because we might be different then reall gg's we still like to be treated as real women and we need the attention that all women deserve 

Yes, yes I agree that most of us want to watch bi play. Sometimes our Sunday Tea dances brought out some bi males that danced & gently fondled each other on the infamous dance floor. Everyone else lined the edge of the dance floor. You could feel the sexual energy real good that night.

In light of what CarolDanny said, we were lucky to play the voyeur that night.

I didn't know that, thanks David.  I'll give Woody Allen credit for that.

Jill, that's one of Woody Allan's great one liners.

I like to think of being bi-sexual as - I've got twice the chance of having a date on Saturday night. 

Danny here. I've been "out" as a Bi-Male for over 20 years. I actually came out with it on purpose as I was tired of the hypocrisy in the Swingers Community. I do like to shock. As most of us know, there is no more close-minded and hypocritical community like Swingers. It is a community of people who believe they are very open, but only as long as you are doing it their way!

When we started Swinging in the early 1980's, even Bisexual Women were in the minority as many of the older members in the scene were still into the "swapping" ideals of the 1970's and not the shared play. Our first Swing Club was actually split along the lines of Bi-Women and non-Bi with the Bi's in the minority. But as the older died out (okay, just joking) more and more women started experimenting and identifying as Bi. Now it's almost weird to find a straight women in the Lifestyle!

I see that happening now with the men. As I mentioned, I do come out long ago, and publicly people would not allow Bi-play, but privately, almost every militantly straight Swinger we knew admitted they were curious. My old joke was that I sucked more Straight cock than Bi or Gay! As more and more Bi men come forward and are accepted, I think you will see more actual Bi-play. Many clubs now are setting aside a couple of nights a month for Bi-Nights where both men and women can play as they like.

We play with anyone, be them Bi or straight, but the guys have to be accepting. If they aren't, we don't want them around ;)

Fortunatly there has been a huge increase in the number of BI couples and BI males that have come out of the closet in the last few years. Look into any BI chat room and you will find at least 25% of the guys there say stright on there profile but are always in the BI chatroom?? Still many BI curious but not ready to make it public yet. Stright women are  a minority in the lifestyle.

From what I have seen here and more often on other sites, in chat, ads, ( most frequently in ads ) , is an unreasoning bias against bi males, or even the hint of bi male activity.

What I’m referring to is the ad that goes something like this:

…. fem is bi-selective and male is ST8! NO absolutely NO bi or bi selective males!!

Usually the ad doesnt even make the obligatory ref to the single male not bein needed or some other slam. What it shows is that there are a lot of cpls out there that want nothing to do with a male , any male, that is or has been in the past, bi. Bi curious, bi selective, bi maybe, bi friendly etc etc.

I find this attitude in stark contrast to the otherwise open minded and liberal crowd we usually talk with. Frankly its a little worrying. It implies to me a certain hypocrisy thats unnerving to deal with. These are the same ppl that pant after the holy grail of single bi fem nympho cheerleader ( ourselves included  , it really leaves me wondering just where we stand with ppl in general.

Confusing to say the least, like my writing. Anyways, its a little spooky to see such a sharp divide, a firm and unyielding NO on the part of some ppl, and the traditional openess and tolerance of others. We arent a bi cpl, nor are we looking for one. But I can tell you, when looking for playmates, particularly online, its the tolerant open ones we will be contacting.

OH!! almost forgot. This is one of the few places that we HAVE seen intelligent mostly reasoning conversation about the whole issue. Hence , the reason for posting here, rather than elsewhere

Myths and Realities of Bisexuality

We all have seen/heard misconceptions and myths about bi sexuality this article isnt gender specific and is interesting for all curious about it

Myths and Realities of Bisexuality

Sexuality runs along a continuum. It is not a static “thing” but rather a process that can flow, changing throughout our lifetime. Bisexuality falls along this continuum. As Boston bisexual activist Robyn Ochs says, bisexuality is the “potential for being sexually and/or romantically involved with members of either gender.”

Myth: Bisexuals are promiscuous/swingers.
Truth: Bisexual people have a range of sexual behaviors. Some have multiple partners; some go through partner-less periods. Promiscuity is no more prevalent in the bisexual population than in other groups of people.

Myth: Bisexuals are equally attached to both sexes.
Truth: Bisexuals tend to favor either the same or the opposite sex, while recognizing their attraction to both genders.

Myth: Bisexual means having concurrent lovers of both genders.
Truth: Bisexual simply means the potential for involvement with either gender. This may mean sexually, emotionally, in reality, or in fantasy. Some bisexual people may have concurrent lovers; other may relate to different genders at various time periods. Most bisexuals do not need to see both genders in order to feel fulfilled.

Myth: Bisexuals cannot be monogamous.
Truth: Bisexuality is a sexual orientation. It is independent of a lifestyle of monogamy or non-monogamy. Bisexuals are as capable as anyone of making a long-term monogamous commitment to a partner they love. Bisexuals live a variety of lifestyles as do gays and heterosexuals.

Myth: Bisexuals are denying their lesbianism or gayness.
Truth: Bisexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation, which incorporates gayness. Most bisexuals consider themselves part of the generic term “gay.” Many are quite active in the gay community, both socially and politically. Some of us use terms such as “bisexual lesbian” to increase our visibility on both issues.

Myth: Bisexuals are in “transition”.
Truth: Some people go through a transitional period of bisexuality on their way to adopting a lesbian/gay or heterosexual identity. For many others, bisexuality remains a long-term orientation. Indeed, we are finding that homosexuality may be a transitional phase in the coming-out process for bisexual people.

Myth: Bisexuals spread AIDS to the lesbian and heterosexual communities.
Truth: This myth legitimizes discrimination against bisexuals. The label “bisexual” simply refers to sexual orientation. It says nothing about sexual behavior. AIDS occurs in people of all sexual orientations. AIDS is contracted through unsafe sexual practices, shared needles, and contaminated blood transfusions. Sexual orientation does not “cause” AIDS.

Myth: Bisexuals are confused about their sexuality.
Truth: It is natural for both bisexuals and gays to go through a period of confusion in the coming-out process. When you are an oppressed people and are constantly told that you don’t exist, confusion is an appropriate reaction until you come out to yourself and find a supportive environment.

Myth: Bisexuals can hide in the heterosexual community when the going gets tough.
Truth: To “pass” for straight and deny your bisexuality is just as painful and damaging for a bisexual as it is for a gay. Bisexuals are not heterosexual and we do not identify as heterosexual.

Myth: Bisexuals are not gay.
Truth: We are part of the generic definition of gay (see Don Clark’;s Loving Someone Gay.) Non-gays lump us all together. Bisexuals have lost their jobs and suffer the same legal discrimination as other gays.

Myth: Bisexual women will dump you for a man.
Truth: Women who are uncomfortable or confused about their same-sex attraction may use the bisexual label. True bisexuals acknowledge both their same-sex and opposite-sex attraction. Both bisexuals and gays are capable of going back into the closet. People who are unable to make commitments may use a person of either gender to leave a relationship.

It is important to remember that bisexual, gay, lesbian, and heterosexual are labels created by a homophobic, biphobic, heterosexist society to separate and alienate us from each other. We are all unique; we don’t fit into neat little categories. We sometimes need to use these labels for political reasons and to increase our visibilities. Our sexual esteem is facilitated by acknowledging and accepting the differences and seeing the beauty in our diversity.

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